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Post by Zach72 on Jun 1, 2014 18:55:26 GMT
Do you guys want to do something like this? All you would have to do is submit a chart of yours that was uploaded in a specific month by commenting on a monthly thread, and at the end of each month/beginning of the next month, we would vote and pick a winner. My worries would be that it would kinda clash with Charts of the Year - just because it would take away hype from that . . . What do you guys think?
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Post by hannanos on Jun 2, 2014 1:05:19 GMT
This would be awesome though because it would be good motivation for charters, and it could be included as the featured chart like you guys used to have
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Post by Julzboiy on Jun 2, 2014 10:11:23 GMT
I don't believe it will take away the hype from the "Charts of the Year" postings honestly.
I just think it's a very good idea and i believe it will give plenty of motivation for new charters to get that spot at chart of the month, Almost like the employee of the month.
You just really can't compare the Chart of the Month to the CHARTS OF THE YEAR though.. which are the most well received and popular charts among the FtB community for the entire year.
Also, it is a possibility that the charts of the month will be on the same list as the best charts of the year.. BUT! I think members within the ftb community put more time and thought into choosing their favorite charts when it comes to the best charts of the year. Maybe we can run an anonymous poll for the best charts? One that doesn't show the results of the voting to the community so we can get a more accurate representation of what the best charts will be due to members not being influenced by the choices of others, plus, it could build up suspense and anticipation.
I also consider the charts of the month to be a very minor event compared to the very MAJOR moment we've all been waiting for..
"THE BEST FTB CHARTS OF 2014". Yeah..
Just my 2cents. lol
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Post by Dr. Phil on Jun 2, 2014 14:15:55 GMT
I think it's best if I address the issue that there's a high chance of it being the same select few who release good charts, who are featured as chart of the month. It gives little chance to the new charters who rarely give out anything professional, and it can bug them that they believe they won't be able to reach that status.
There's also possibility of bias in the community. It can end up just being a "who has the most fans" competition.
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Post by paulnet on Jun 2, 2014 16:55:28 GMT
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It might not look so but this will bring more elitism to the community. And elitism is something you want to avoid as much as you can.
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Post by Zach72 on Jun 2, 2014 19:12:54 GMT
I think it's best if I address the issue that there's a high chance of it being the same select few who release good charts, who are featured as chart of the month. It gives little chance to the new charters who rarely give out anything professional, and it can bug them that they believe they won't be able to reach that status. There's also possibility of bias in the community. It can end up just being a "who has the most fans" competition. Hmmm we could try doing something like anonymously uploading . . . everyone sends their files to me and I upload on a - Chart of the Month - account. But while I do agree that although bias and elitism are possible problems, Best of 201X has always seemed to do well and go without criticism, or at least, I very much enjoy it. Would there be that a real difference between Chart of the Month and Best of the year? |
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Post by Dr. Phil on Jun 2, 2014 19:33:28 GMT
What I find to be the main difference between monthly features and yearly features is that monthly features are a constant reminder to the players on the hierarchy of who are the better charters. With the Best Charts of 201X, it's per annum so there are more charts and the list can be greatly varied.
Also, there's the possibility of both Best Chart This Month and Best Charts of 201X lists to clash, for example, a chart being featured in both lists. I personally think that such an occurance would make the chart almost 'over-publicized' and kind of enforce a shadow over the other charts.
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Post by Zach72 on Jun 2, 2014 20:35:14 GMT
What I find to be the main difference between monthly features and yearly features is that monthly features are a constant reminder to the players on the hierarchy of who are the better charters. Meh, as a not-legendary charter, I personally have never felt like my average charting skills were something to be depressed about. I guess it would obviously be more emphasized if a not-great charter never won, but couldn't that also work to motivate the charter to try and improve? (I was also thinking that the format could be different from best of the ____ and be something like . . . self-nominated charts, so that if they enter, they are actually into it, + hidden tallies, so no one feels bad because he/she wouldn't know he/she got few or no votes). Tbh, I've never thought that charting was very competitive because it's so low key and it is a small community - it also is based on charts and not who charted it, so I'm hoping people would remember that. Although I agree that probably would happen, I think people would forget pretty quickly about the winner of the month preceding the last month. AND we already have so many under-publicized charts - a majority of the charts on the site, really. On that topic though, maybe someone could start writing a regular thread that would feature underrated charts  . Anyways, it looks like that there's enough controversy on this idea that maybe we'll just vote on it later or put it to the side. |
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Post by Amefurashi on Jun 5, 2014 4:29:21 GMT
Song and Charter biases aside I think this is good.
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Post by paulnet on Jun 6, 2014 22:46:01 GMT
Although I agree that probably would happen, I think people would forget pretty quickly about the winner of the month preceding the last month. AND we already have so many under-publicized charts - a majority of the charts on the site, really. On that topic though, maybe someone could start writing a regular thread that would feature underrated charts . You know that was the main reason we had featuring in old ftb. |
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Post by Zach72 on Jun 6, 2014 23:33:24 GMT
Although I agree that probably would happen, I think people would forget pretty quickly about the winner of the month preceding the last month. AND we already have so many under-publicized charts - a majority of the charts on the site, really. On that topic though, maybe someone could start writing a regular thread that would feature underrated charts . You know that was the main reason we had featuring in old ftb. Yeah, we should try to get that re-added back into FtB4 . . . but the problem with featuring was that once replaced, it was as if they (the previously featured charts) were never there. If we had some kind of review column going, the threads would live permanently. THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION THOUGH |
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Post by crazymario on Jun 26, 2014 14:52:28 GMT
Why don't you just allow each charter to only be able to win Chart of the Month once a year?
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Post by Zach72 on Jun 27, 2014 20:34:34 GMT
Why don't you just allow each charter to only be able to win Chart of the Month once a year? We could do that but I assumed people would complain about the competition not being about the best charts. . . Say that there were tons of good charts by pro charters submitted in a certain month but all of those pro charters had won chart of the month earlier in the year, only leaving some crummy charts. Would we be forced to name one of the crummy charts CotM? I do think that a limitation on wins sounds like a promising idea - but maybe not as restricted as once per year (because in a year's time, who knows how many charters will be active -> less restrictions = more opportunities for a legitimate competition). If you win one CotM, you can't win the following month's competition maybe? |
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Post by Decon082 on Jun 28, 2014 3:17:55 GMT
If you win one CotM, you can't win the following month's competition maybe? This sounds like a good idea. I don't even think we have 12 active charters right now. |
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Post by Amefurashi on Jun 28, 2014 6:44:40 GMT
If you win one CotM, you can't win the following month's competition maybe? This sounds like a good idea. I don't even think we have 12 active charters right now. Slightly unfair :/ give like some cookie (special award) if the a charter who got a CoTM award when (i know this will happen) he posts a should be chart of the month |
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